Monday, November 14, 2005

Pat Robertson is at it again!

I know this happened last week, but I thought I had to at least mention it here. Pat Robertson had this to say to the citizens of Dover, PA who last week replaced school board members who had voted to require biology teachers to mention intelligent design in their discussion of evolution:

"I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: If there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God. You just rejected him from your city, and don'’t wonder why he hasn'’t helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I'’m not saying they will, but if they do, just remember, you just voted God out of your city. And if that'’s the case, don'’t ask for his help because he might not be there."

He later clarified his response by adding the following:
"God is tolerant and loving, but we can't keep sticking our finger in his eye forever," Robertson said. "If they have future problems in Dover, I recommend they call on Charles Darwin. Maybe he can help them."
Those of who know me that I put my science and my faith in two different categories. In my opinion, science studies the laws God established for the way the world works. Evolution could be the method God chose to create the universe. I don't have the answer to that, and neither does anyone else. What I do have is the faith that God did create the universe in whatever way he saw fit. This faith cannot be proven by science, but it is also not weakened by the lack of proof.

We discussed this very issue and this very case with Dr. Charles Haynes, directory of the First Amendment Center, at the Freedom Forum on my recent trip to Washington. In my response paper, which I still plan to post here soon, I had this to say on the issue:

Dr. Haynes saved one of his most profound statements for the end of the discussion. He said, "“If religion has to be proven in a scientific way, then there is no place for faith in religion." As a Christian, I believe that faith has to take precedence over science. Only faith can explain the existence of miracles; science cannot. Only faith can explain the power of prayer; science cannot. And, only faith can prove the existence of God; science cannot. As most Christians know, faith can be more powerful than any scientific theory, and that should be enough.

You can read an Associated Baptist Press article about Pat Robertson's comments by clicking here.


Roger said...

Why are Falwell and Robertson the focus of so much energy amongst Christians? Are Falwell and Robertson the enemy? Are Falwell and Robertson brothers in Christ? What is the benefit of postings such as this? I believe it gives atheists, scoffers and skeptics inner peace that they don't need to repent as they can find many believers that appear to feel the same as they do (compare their statements with yours and others in the church regarding Falwell and Robertson). That leads to my main point: is this how God has told us how to deal with disagreements in the church? Is God calling us to this?

Gil Gulick said...

The benefit is simple. I have personally heard people say they will not become Christians if they have to believe the kind of things that Falwell and Robertson believe. I believe that their beliefs are in the minority, and at times they border on, or actually are false prophets.

Roger said...

So we pattern our behavior based on what unbelievers views are - or what scripture tells us? Aren't their views likely to change? I still am having a hard time finding where this kind of treatment of brothers in Christ is scriptural. What if I started posting blog articles titled 'Gil is at it again!' - wouldn't you feel a little hurt that I did that and seemed to be publicly hashing it out and not even getting in touch with you? It would seem that I really didn't want you to be corrected of your error, rather I was having a good time at your expense (which, by the way, is what atheists and scoffers love to do - just search the web to see what kind of sites harbor these attitudes). Remember - we are Christians - and so are Falwell and Robertson - unless you believe that 'being in the minority' as you say - nullifies their relationship with Christ - which ultimately means that salvation hangs on works instead of grace through faith. Is this working out our sanctification with fear and trembling? Also, have you seen many unbelievers come to Christ by this method of evangelism - of not focusing on Jesus but rather focusing on the faults of other Christians? I see a lot of likeminded people complimenting themselves as they have already come to that opinion long before reading blog posts along this line. However, I have yet to see that someone's eyes have been opened to the truth of the Gospel by this method.

Gil Gulick said...

I think we are looking at it from different perpectives. You asked if I had seen many unbelievers come to Christ this way, but my point is how many people I have seen driven away from the church by comments, specifically by Falwell and Robertson. I have many personal experiences with this. If I was able to undo the damage at all, it took a LONG time. I do understand the point you are making, and I appreciate your taking the time to post.